HON. T. MLISWA: I have been approaching the Chair. You cannot whip me. You cannot keep whipping me. I have been approaching the Chair how many times Madam Speaker? Let me finish and then you can make a ruling. If you want to chuck me out, you can chuck me out but the issue will not end. I will limit myself to the issues. How many times have I been there? Our lives are under threat by that man. He is still in Parliament and you allow him to be in Parliament. He is a murderer. You kill people you do not know. Vave kukumukira manje vanhu vacho wakutaura chokwadi wega. Wazviona wave kurotomoka. Munhu haauraiwe, munhu haauraiwe. Wakupenga manje. Mari dzeZinara uchiba usingabhadhare.
Madam Speaker, you tell me the same thing when I come there that I must not talk about it. That is what you said to me. I must speak. These are serious issues. We are being threatened. He is constantly threatening anyone. Gun trotting in Chegutu, you also did the same with guns.
Hon. Nduna having stood up.
Do not go away you murderer, you murderer come back, come back you murderer. You are a murderer come back. Self confessed murderer.
THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE, LEGAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (HON. ZIYAMBI): I think you are now losing the plot. This is no longer an honourable House.
HON. T. MLISWA: You are killing the justice system. Ndimi murikuprotector ma murderer. Ziyambi futi une Human Rights Report unonzi unofanira kuinvestigetwa iwewe – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – We are intimidated every day. I need to finish. He is a useless Minister of Justice. Shumba, you are in Human Rights Commission to be investigated on Hurungwe issues. You know that. Ndinokuregerera. You are mentioned in the Human Rights Commission Report to be investigated as Minister of Justice. You are not exemplary.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Mliswa, leave the House.
HON. T. MLISWA: Uda kuita chii? – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – Uku kuMash West hausi kutonga, unotonga chii?Iwe wakauraya Vanhu kuHurungwe – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –You are a useless Chairman – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave the House!
Hon. Mliswa was escorted out of the Chamber by the Serjeant-at- Arms.
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, order Hon. Members. Hon. Zwizwai, may you sit down. I have heard what Hon. Mliswa said. I will study the matter and make a ruling because the issues are in the courts as we speak – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – That is my ruling Hon. Gonese. Please may you sit down?
HON. GONESE: Madam Speaker, I rise on a matter of privilege which affects us as Members of Parliament. As Members of Parliament Madam Speaker, we have got a situation which occurred in the presence of Parliament. That situation affects all of us and we are very concerned because of what transpired. Fortunately, even those who were not there were able to see from a video which was circulating all the events. So, we are very clear in terms of what we heard and it is important for us to be made to understand because in your ruling, if I understood you correctly, you have indicated that the matter is under the courts but I believe that is a different issue Madam Speaker. What has happened is that there was a summons which was issued seeking damages for defamation. That is not the subject matter which we are talking about. The subject matter which has been taken to court relates to a civil suit seeking damages. What we are concerned with is a situation where threats were made to a Member of Parliament …
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