*HON. CHINOTIMBA: When Hon. Mliswa was debating, he mentioned what happened at the ZANU PF conference and we gave him an opportunity. When debates were going on, we did not interfere. So, let me debate freely. The issue that I have is that we are talking about corruption in the country that there is so much corruption but let us start where it started going up so that we get to the root of corruption. We do not want to say that if a person was corrupt yesterday, they should be pardoned because they are no longer in the office. I do not think it is proper. Going back to NSSA…
HON. PHIRI: On a point of order Madam Speaker.
THE DEPUTY SPEAKER: What is your point of order?
HON. PHIRI: Madam Speaker, we cannot sit here quietly when other people are making a lot of noise for us. We are quiet, we want to listen. It is unfair – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – you shut up, it is unfair – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – You shut up. It is unfair Madam Speaker. It is unfair that when people talk about ZANU PF, corruption in ZANU PF, everyone wants to laugh, but when we talk – shut up – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – Can I have your protection?
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, order! Can we have order? Hon. Chibaya, can we have order? Hon. Members, Hon. Chibaya what is wrong?
HON. CHIBAYA: We are not his children – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Members! Hon. Phiri, you complain to the Chair that you are not hearing anything, not shut up vanhu. You are not supposed to do that because these are Hon. Members. They can make a lot of noise, but they are Hon. Members. Would you please just withdraw the shut up. Please do. Withdraw that before you say anything.
HON. PHIRI: Can people shut up so that I can say, I withdraw – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – Maybe my English is the one that is not correct. I wanted people to be quiet, so I think…
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You wanted people to be quiet, but you used a wrong word. Will you please withdraw?
HON. PHIRI: I want to withdraw the shut up, but I also want to say that because they are talking of ZANU PF, that is corrupt – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] – Madam Speaker, may I say this. Our towns and cities have turned into villages. We are walking in pot holes and everything because of them. Now, why should they be calling ZANU PF corrupt? They are also corrupt. They are stealing in our towns and cities – [AN HON. MEMBER: He is an idiot!] –
THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Who said that? Hon. Maridadi, could you please withdraw your words? – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –
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