Gukurahundi rears its ugly head again as Parliament discusses Mphoko’s Peace and Reconciliation bill- Part Six

 HON. MLISWA:  Can I say this.  It is not proper to talk about a public listed company.  It has 50 000 shareholders and you cannot talk about it because some of us are shareholders and they are not here to defend themselves.  Meikles are not here to defend themselves and we cannot talk about the company which is not here to defend itself.  It is now a public listed company -[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]-

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  Order, order Hon. Members.

HON. MLISWA:  Madam Speaker, it is the same company that has given 500 cars to ZANU PF to campaign.  Are you not forgetting that and you do not even know who gives you money?  Meikles has donated cars to you.  You are so ignorant because you do not even know the company that gave you money.  It gave ZANU PF 500 cars, why are they not talking about it? – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]-

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:   Order Hon. Mliswa.  Order Hon. Members.  Hon. Mliswa, order.  Hon. Mliswa, you have raised a point of order to me and not to the other Members of Parliament and I have to respond. – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –  Order Hon. Mudarikwa.  Order Hon. Members. Hon. Members please stand guided, I think I made a ruling on this issue and I said no to allegations.  We must respect each other.

In our Standing Orders we have privileges as Parliament – freedom of speech and whatsoever, but we must remain guided.  Hon. Mudarikwa, I want you to remain guided and focus on the contents of the Bill please if you want to debate.

HON. MLISWA:  On a point of order, he called me pfutseki.  He insulted me pfutseki and he even says we can go outside.  I am ready to go with him outside if he wants us to go outside anytime.  He is big and he will come down hard.  As big as he is, he will come down hard.  I will go for his jaw, I am not a player.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  Hon. Mliswa, approach the Chair.

HON. MLISWA: He must withdraw I am not pfutseki.  He said pfutseki to me in here.  Let us go and you will see it when you come back.  I will deal with your fat burley – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.]-

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  Order Hon. Members.  Hon. Mliswa, approach the Chair.

THE VICE PRESIDENT AND MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALING, PEACE AND RECONCILIATION (HON. MPHOKO):  Thank you Madam Speaker.  We are not achieving anything.  We are making so much noise – [AN HON. MEMBER: It is healthy.]- No, confusion is not healthy.

Madam Speaker, I want to propose that this debate should be adjourned because it looks like people do not understand what we are supposed to be discussing.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  The Vice President and Minister of National Healing, Peace and Reconciliation has asked for this debate to adjourn so that Members of Parliament can go and read the Bill because from what we are debating, it shows that you do not know the Bill at all.

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