Nkosana Moyo said Made was incompetent

Trade and Industry Minister Nkosana Moyo told dinner guests at his home from both the Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front and the Movement for Democratic Change that land and Agriculture Minister Joseph made was incompetent.

The dinner was supposed by the ambassadors of the United States, Germany, Australia, Canada and France. Its aim was to begin dialogue between ZANU-PF and MDC parliamentarians.

Although members of both parties are reported to have started discussing incompetent MPs in their respective delegations, the cable only quotes Moyo commenting on Made.

There are no comments at all from the MDC legislators.

Saviour Tyson Kasukuwere is quoted as saying he thought Youth Minister Border Gezi was smart to which Welshman Ncube replied that that would make Gezi even more dangerous.

 

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Reference ID	Created	Released	Classification	Origin
00HARARE6318	2000-11-09 15:50	2011-08-30 01:44	CONFIDENTIAL	Embassy Harare

This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

 

 

 

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FM AMEMBASSY HARARE

TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 7604

INFO NSC WASHDC IMMEDIATE

SOUTHERN AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY

AMEMBASSY NAIROBI

C O N F I D E N T I A L HARARE 006318

 

SIPDIS

 

NSC FOR SENIOR AFRICA DIRECTOR GAYLE SMITH

 

LONDON FOR CHARLES GURNEY

 

PARIS FOR BISA WILLIAMS

 

PASS USTR FOR ROSA WHITAKER

 

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/09/10

TAGS: PGOV PREL ECON PINR ZI

SUBJECT: SYMBOLIC MEETING BETWEEN ZIMBABWE

PARLIAMENTARIANS FROM GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION

 

REFS: A) HARARE 6189, B) HARARE 6082

 

CLASSIFIED BY AMBASSADOR TOM MCDONALD FOR REASONS 1.5

(B) AND (D).

 

¶1. (C) SUMMARY: AMBASSADOR MCDONALD SUPPORTED A DINNER

HOSTED BY MINISTER OF INDUSTRY AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE

NKOSANA MOYO NOVEMBER 7 AIMED AT GETTING ZANU-PF AND MDC

PARLIAMENTARIANS TALKING TO EACH OTHER. AMONG THE

GUESTS WERE TWO MDC AND TWO ZANU-PF MPS. THE ATMOSPHERE

WAS CORDIAL AND BOTH SIDES SPOKE FRANKLY OF THEIR OWN

DELEGATIONS’ FAILINGS IN PARLIAMENT. MINISTER MOYO

SOUGHT TO GET BOTH SIDES TALKING IN PARTICULAR ABOUT

WORKING TOGETHER TO IMPROVE ZIMBABWE’S INTERNATIONAL

TRADE RELATIONS. NO BREAKTHROUGH MATERIALIZED, NOR WAS

ANY EXPECTED, BUT THE AMBASSADOR AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS

IN THIS PROCESS INTEND THIS TO BE THE FIRST OF A SERIES

OF LESS-FORMAL MEETINGS TO GET THE ZIMBABWEAN GOVERNMENT

AND OPPOSITION TALKING BEFORE THE TENSIONS BETWEEN THEM

COMES TO BLOWS. END SUMMARY.

 

¶2. (C) AMBASSADOR, ALONG WITH THE AMBASSADORS FROM

GERMANY, AUSTRALIA, CANADA AND FRANCE, SUPPORTED A

DINNER HOSTED BY MINISTER OF INDUSTRY AND INTERNATIONAL

TRADE NKOSANA MOYO AT MOYO’S RESIDENCE NOVEMBER 7. THE

INVITED GUESTS WERE WELSHMAN NCUBE, MDC SECRETARY-

GENERAL AND MP FOR BULAWAYO NORTHEAST, FLETCHER NCUBE,

MDC INDUSTRY, COMMERCE AND TRADE SHADOW MINISTER AND MP

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FOR LOBENGULA-MAGWEGWE, TYSON KASUKUWERE, ZANU-PF MP FOR

MOUNT DARWIN SOUTH, AND DANIEL NCUBE, ZANU-PF MP FOR

ZHOMBE DISTRICT.

 

¶3. (C) THE OBJECTIVE OF THE DINNER WAS TO BEGIN A

CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE ZANU-PF AND MDC

PARLIAMENTARIANS, WHO HAVE SHOWN FEW SIGNS OF

COOPERATION IN THIS NEW SESSION OF PARLIAMENT. THE

VITRIOL HAS REACHED A NEW LEVEL FOLLOWING THE

INTRODUCTION OF THE MDC’S PRESIDENTIAL IMPEACHMENT

MOTION (REF B). THE ATMOSPHERE WAS CORDIAL AND THE

DISCUSSION CENTERED AROUND PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE

BEFORE TURNING TO INDIVIDUAL PARLIAMENTARIANS. BOTH

SIDES POINTED OUT THE “INCOMPETENT” MPS IN THEIR

RESPECTIVE DELEGATIONS AND MUSED ABOUT HOW SOME STILL

HAD NOT GOTTEN UP TO SPEED. MINISTER MOYO REMARKED THAT

HE BELIEVED LANDS, AGRICULTURE AND RESETTLEMENT MINISTER

JOSEPH MADE TO BE INCOMPETENT. ON THE OTHER HAND,

KASUKUWERE SAID HE THOUGHT YOUTH DEVELOPMENT MINISTER

BORDER GEZI WAS “SMART,” TO WHICH WELSHMAN NCUBE REPLIED

THAT WOULD MAKE GEZI EVEN MORE DANGEROUS. (COMMENT:

GEZI, THE FORMER MASHONALAND CENTRAL GOVERNOR,

PERSONALLY AND ENTHUSIASTICALLY DIRECTED THE CAMPAIGN OF

PRE-ELECTION VIOLENCE IN HIS PROVINCE. KASUKUWERE ALSO

IS REPORTED TO HAVE DIRTY HANDS FROM THE PRE-ELECTION

PERIOD [REF A] END COMMENT.)

 

¶4. (C) AS PART OF HIS AGENDA FOR THE DINNER, MINISTER

MOYO SOUGHT TO BUILD BI-PARTISAN SUPPORT FOR LAYING THE

POLICY GROUNDWORK TO QUALIFY FOR AFRICAN GROWTH AND

OPPORTUNITY ACT (AGOA) CONCESSIONS. THE AUSTRALIAN HIGH

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COMMISSIONER REPORTED TO DCM THAT THE MAIN INITIATIVE IN

THE CARDS WAS A POSSIBLE JOINT TRIP TO WASHINGTON TO

PLEAD ZIMBABWE’S CASE. SUBSEQUENTLY, MINISTER MOYO

BROACHED THE POSSIBLE TRIP TO THE AMBASSADOR, WHO

COUNSELED THAT THE EFFORT NOT BE UNDERTAKEN UNTIL LATE

FEBRUARY OR MARCH 2001 WHEN THE NEW ADMINISTRATION IS IN

PLACE. HE ALSO ADVISED THE MINISTER TO MANAGE

EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE THE AGOA DECISION RELATED TO

ZIMBABWE IS NOT LIKELY TO BE REVERSED OR OVERTURNED

SOON.

 

¶5. (C) COMMENT: ALTHOUGH NO BREAKTHROUGHS WERE SEEN AT

THIS DINNER, AS EXPECTED, WE WERE PLEASED TO SEE BOTH

SIDES ENGAGED IN A CORDIAL AND FRANK DISCUSSION.

WELSHMAN NCUBE, AN MDC MODERATE, IS WELL THOUGHT OF BY

BOTH SIDES AND COULD BE A KEY PERSON IN FUTURE BI-

PARTISAN MEETINGS. MINISTER MOYO IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT

INTERLOCUTOR AND CLEARLY WANTS ZIMBABWE TO QUALIFY FOR

AGOA. THE AMBASSADOR ENVISIONS A SERIES OF THESE LESS

FORMAL, CONFIDENCE-BUILDING GATHERINGS, AND WILL BE

WORKING WITH HIS DIPLOMATIC COLLEAGUES TO JUMPSTART THE

DIALOGUE BETWEEN ZANU-PF AND MDC BEFORE THE TENSION

BETWEEN THEM COMES TO BLOWS. END COMMENT.

 

MCDONALD

 

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