Gukurahundi rears its ugly head again as Parliament discusses Mphoko’s Peace and Reconciliation bill- Part Four

*HON. CHINOTIMBA:  Hon. Speaker, people are talking about Gukurahundi issues and other such issues.  If that is the case, Mr. Speaker, let me end here and say that we will not agree.  I do not like this Bill whether you accept it or not.  I am not saying the Executive is wrong.  The Executive has done well to bring this Bill, but people talk about corruption.  They discuss issues about corruption.  If the Executive cannot see, clearly this Bill will destroy the country. I will not allow it.  I thank you.

HON. HOLDER:  Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.  I rise to add my voice to this Peace and National Reconciliation Commission Bill [H.B. 2, 2017].  Mr. Speaker, we do not live in the past.  Rivers never flow in reverse.  Let us try to be like a river.  Let us focus on the future.  Let us always be positive…

HON. ADV. CHAMISA:  On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir.

THE HON. SPEAKER:  Hon. Chamisa, what is your point of order.

*HON. ADV. CHAMISA:  I am pained Hon. Speaker.  I am pained by the fact that we are debating an important Bill and Hon. Chinotimba may take it lightly.  It is not good for an Hon. Member like Hon. Chinotimba…

THE HON. SPEAKER:  Order.  I have ruled the Hon. Member out of order, so you cannot debate that.

*HON. ADV.CHAMISA:  I am not debating Hon. Speaker.

THE HON. SPEAKER:  Do not debate what Hon. Chinotimba did.  He was ruled out of order.

*HON. ADV.CHAMISA:  Yes, he has been ruled out of order, but my request, Mr. Speaker, is that if we want to build our country, when we have such a debate, we should not have too much differences.  We should not appear as if we are playing games or fighting.  The Vice President is here, he is representing the entire country.  He represents the President and the Constitution as you have said.  My point of order is, that let us give due gravity to this issue because this came out as a result of the people’s input.  We should debate this issue bearing in mind that these issues came from the people.  These are the people’s issues and not ours.  It is not our opinion.  If the Vice President is here, the country is here and we represent the people.  We must respect that.

*THE HON. SPEAKER:  Hon. Chamisa, have you decided to take over my presiding over this House?  I have already given those comments and made a ruling that no one should talk about any other issues except what is contained in the Bill.  I am still holding that position.  I thank you.

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